I think among many Christians the Age of the Earth
could not be more of a non-issue. For others there is a huge
division of those who passionately defend an Old Earth vs. those
who support a young earth. On face value, it would seem not that
relevant. But I firmly believe upon further examination of the
Scriptures there are not options open to us who are commanded
to "contend for the faith once and for all delivered to
the saints" (Jude: 3). I also believe that if the age of
the earth question were rephrased to ask "Does God expect
man to be able to tell time?" and we can Biblically support
the answer to this question, there then would remain no longer
any doubt about mans response to the question and the question
of the age of the earth would no longer be open to private interpretation.
I further maintain, that if the Bible is absolutely clear on
this subject, it does not matter what science says. And my defense
below does not depend on science, though it does answer some
of the questions that science raises.
I think that one of the biggest arguments
used by both Evolutionist and old earth Biblical Creationists
which causes confusion in Christians, and buckles the knees of
even many young earth Biblical Creationists, is the distance
of the stars question. If the stars are so far away, then how
could the earth be young? This is a very good question. Even
many young earth Creationists, including astronomers, physicists,
and geologists have varying and intriguing models to defend a
young earth. But these models are, in great part, very dependent
on science alone. And I believe that the Bible does not contradict
science (when, in fact, the science is truth), or if it does,
as in the case of miracles, then we are informed in the passage.
But science explains only the physical and natural world and
it often fails miserably at that.
But there are some very important Scriptures
which are left out in these formulas for explaining the age of
the earth. Both Old Earth and Young Earth scientific models are
flawed in this respect. They leave out the invisible. Hugh Rosss
Universe (an old earth advocate) is solely governed by Physical
laws. But the Bible has both physical (visible) and invisible
laws and governing principalities. It is not even a matter of
natural vs. supernatural, as even the natural world and universe
is governed by the invisible. Here are the Scriptures that must
Romans 1:20: "For since the creation
of the world Gods invisible qualities have been clearly
seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are
This Scripture is amazing in two respects.
First, it has man seeing and understanding from the beginning
of Creation. So there is no billions or even millions of years
that the earth was here before man appears. He is here from the
beginning. But this passage is significant in a second respect
that "invisible" qualities are used to govern the Universe,
but they are qualities that continued PAST Creation week to this
Colossians 1:16: "For by him all
things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and
INVISIBLE, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities;
all things were created by him and for him. He is before all
things, and in him all things hold together."
Once again the main principle of the Universe
here is NOT visible. Christ the Invisible God holds everything
together, not Newtons or Einsteins Laws or anyone
elses laws who ever lived.
Hebrews 11:3: "By faith we understand
that the universe was formed at Gods command, so that what
is seen (the physical universe of earth, sun, moon, and stars)
is NOT MADE OUT OF WHAT WAS VISIBLE." It was made of what
Here is where the natural laws and that
which is visible, as the only explanation of what has been observed,
completely collapse. Men such Hugh Ross and Big Bang supporters
have almost everything made proceed forth from visible materials
and debris left over in this imaginary explosion. Both Old Earth
and even Young Earth Scientists, even Christians, often give
us E=MC2 (Energy = Mass times the square of the Speed of Light)
Theory of Relativity. The Big Bang Theory of the Age of the Earth
tells us that the earth is 4.6 billion years old. But in order
to come up with that figure, they would have to be able to measure
the Universe. Dr. Hugh Ross confirmed that the Universe can be
measured. In an interview he states: "Now that astronomers
have measured the universe, we have means for measuring the Creator."
How can any Christian claim to be able measure the Universe,
let alone measure the Creator, God, who is INFINITE? For Job
and the Prophets Jeremiah and Isaiah soundly refute this speculation:
Job declares in the Chapter 38:5 "Who
hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath
stretched the line upon it?" Verses:18-20: "Hast thou
perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it
all. Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness,
where is the place thereof, That thou shouldest take it to the
bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the
house thereof?" And verse 33: "Knowest thou the ordinances
of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?"
Jeremiah 31:37: "Thus saith the
LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of
the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the
seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD."
The Prophet Isaiah further demolishes Hugh
Ross conjecture that the Universe can be measured:
Isaiah 40:12: "Who hath measured
the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with
the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure,
and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?"
The supreme irony is that Dr. Hugh Ross
claimed in his debate with Dr. Kent Hovind on the Age of the
Earth on the John Ankerberg Show that these very Prophets back
up his claims. The truth is that NO man can measure the Universe.
That does not mean it is infinite, as God can measure it. God,
alone, is infinite. His Creation is finite.
In the Theory of Relativity, along with
the Big Bang Theory, where is the invisible spoken of in the
above Scriptures? The answer is NOWHERE. I dont know what
percentage, if any, is attributable to the physical laws vs.
the invisible laws. It might be 40%, it might be 99.9% invisible.
It might be even be 100% invisible and the natural laws are only
pale distorted images like Paul describes ("we see through
a glass dimly"). Plus, what is seen in the physical laws
today has been subject to the curse from the Fall of Adam and
the Second Law of Thermodynamics. And, if as the Scripture reveals
the "heavens wear out like a garment" (Psalm 102:26),
what we see today may not even be recognizable. Though I should
point out, if man is still without excuse according to Romans
1:21, according to what is still seen visibly, these distortions
would have to have limits.
Romans 1:21: "Because that, when
they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful;
but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart
For, we are still without excuse, even
with these distortions. If Christ alone is holding the electron
together from flying apart at the seams, no physical law known
or unknown to man is going to hold it together. And if God says
in the beginning "Let there be light" no physical law
is going to bind him from bringing starlight to the earth instantly,
because it is Christ himself, using his invisible attributes
and laws that we do not know, who is bringing that light instantly
to the earth. Those stars do not exist because they obey some
natural law, but because God spoke them into existence instantly,
named each one by name. The stars may be innumerable to man in
that he cant count them all, but that does not mean there
are an infinite number of stars. To God there is a FINITE number
Psalm 147:4: "He telleth the number
of the stars; he calleth them all by their names."
The Apostle Paul ampliflies on the fact
of God creating a finite number of stars by stating that the
stars differ from one another in glory.
I Corinthians 15:41: "There is
one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another
glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star
Psalm 102:25-26. "Of old hast thou
laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens [are] the work
of thy hands. They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea,
all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt
thou change them, and they shall be changed:"
A garment is finite. It has dimensions.
Ask any tailor. If a garment were infinite (the heavens) they
would never wear out!
The Universe can't be infinite, only God
is infinite, his creation is finite. He does not create a clone
trait of his Omnipresent nature. If it were infinite it would
impossible for the anything to come and go from the Third Heaven,
since an object would have to traverse infinity to get to the
earth. The Apostle Paul and Elijah would still be on their way
to the Third Heaven and could never return. But the Bible clearly
reveals that they did come back!
Here are two more Scriptures which prove
that the heavens are finite:
I Kings 8:27 "Behold, heaven and
the heaven of heavens cannot contain You".
This makes his presence greater than the
vessel, the vessel must have boundaries and capacity.
Ephesians 4:10. "He that descended
is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that
he might fill all things."
Jesus Christ ascended to fill the Universe.
If the Universe were infinite, it could never be filled. QED
So, this brings the next set of Scriptures
which defend that God not only moved things great distances in
the twinkling of an eye during Creation week, but he itemizes
how he did it throughout Biblical history (this Present Age)
and will do as he prophesied in the Age to Come.
Below I would like to add a list where
god performs works over great distances, being covered instantly
from Heaven to earth, earth to Heaven, and different places on
earth as fast or even faster than the speed of light, unbound
by the speed of light:
SATANS FALL LIKE LIGHTNING FROM HEAVEN
Luke 10:18: "And he said unto them,
I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."
Genesis 5:24: "And Enoch walked
with God: and he was not; for God took him."
SATAN TRAVELS TO AND FROM THE EARTH SEEKING
WHOM HE MAY DEVOUR, at least at the speed of light, and according
to the Book of Job was able to approach Gods throne in
a dialog with God.
Job 1:7 "And the LORD said unto
Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and
said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up
and down in it."
SENDING MANNA AND QUAIL FROM HEAVEN
Exodus 16:31 "And the house of
Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander
seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey."
Exodus 16:13 "And it came to pass,
that at even the quails came up, and covered the camp: and in
the morning the dew lay round about the host."
Job 2:2: "And the LORD said unto
Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD,
and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking
up and down in it."
ANGELS ASCENDING AND DESCENDING ON JACOBS
Genesis 28:12: "And he dreamed,
and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached
to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending
ELIJAHS SACRIFICE CONSUMED INTO HEAVEN
2 Kings 1:10: "And Elijah answered
and said to the captain of fifty, If I be a man of God, then
let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty.
And there came down fire from heaven, and consumed him and his
ELIJAHS CHARIOT (He went to heaven
and even came back from the 3rd Heaven at Mount Transfiguration,
just like Paul did and we will do at the Rapture. To do this,
they all have to go even farther than the ends of the first and
2 Kings 2:11: "And it came to pass,
as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared
a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder;
and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven."
AXEHEAD FLOATS (this completely capsizes
Newton's Law of Gravity)
II Kings 6:6: "And he cut down
a stick, and cast [it] in thither; and the iron did swim. "
SENDING DREAMS FROM HEAVEN TO JOSEPH AND
Genesis 37:5: "And Joseph dreamed
a dream, and he told it his brethren: and they hated him yet
and Daniel records:
Daniel 2:19: "Then was the secret
revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the
God of heaven."
THEOPHANIES OF CHRIST
(such as appearing to Abraham, Shadrach,
Meshach and Abednego in the fiery furnace):
Genesis 19:27 "And Abraham gat
up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the
Daniel 3:25: "He answered and said,
Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and
they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son
STAR OF BETHLEHEM
(A normal star could not go west to east,
then cut south for several miles. Now here is a case where God
brought the whole star from the ends of Heaven...not just its
light.) "Suddenly a heavenly host appear at the birth of
Matthew 2:2: "Saying, Where is
he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in
the east, and are come to worship him."
Luke 2:13-15: "And suddenly there
was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising
God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace,
good will toward men. And it came to pass, as the angels were
gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another,
Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is
come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us."
JESUS DESCENDING INTO THE LOWER PARTS OF
Ephesians 4:9: "Now that he ascended,
what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts
of the earth?"
Mark 9:31: "For he taught his disciples,
and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands
of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed,
he shall rise the third day."
Mark 10:34: "And they shall mock
him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall
kill him: and the third day he shall rise again."
Luke 9:22: "Saying, The Son of
man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and
chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third
Luke 24:7: "Saying, The Son of
man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified,
and the third day rise again."
JESUS MAKES INSTANT APPEARANCE AFTER HIS
John 20:19: "Then the same day
at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were
shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews,
came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace
be unto you."
PHILIP BEING INSTANTLY TRANSPORTED IN THE
SPIRIT TO ANOTHER GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION
Acts 8:39 : "And when they were
come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away
Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way
Acts 8:40 : "But Philip was found
at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities,
till he came to Caesarea."
PAUL VISITING THE THIRD HEAVEN AND RETURNING
TO THE EARTH
2 Corinthians 12:2: "I knew a man
in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot
tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
such an one caught up to the third heaven."
CHRISTS RETURN TO THE MOUNT OF OLIVES
(If it takes as long as the speed of light
for Jesus to get to Heaven and back, we cant expect to
see his return for millions of years, plus we would see him returning
as we would see Haleys Comet approach the earth, but the
Bible says no man knows the day or the hour; we would be able
to chart his return from the Heavens...it would be hard to miss
Him if he is brighter than the sun. And Paul and Elijah could
not have returned to the earth again. We would still be waiting
for their first return.)
Zechariah 14:4: (& Revelation Chapter
19: 11-16) "And his feet shall stand in that day upon the
mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the
mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the
east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley;
and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half
of it toward the south."
Acts 1:11: "Which also said, Ye
men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same
Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come
in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."
EVERY PRAYER THAT EVERY SAINT HAVE EVER
PRAYED ARRIVING INSTANTLY IN HEAVEN
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17: "For the
Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the
voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead
in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain
shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet
the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
ARRIVE OF THE NEW JERUSALEM (Revelation
Note that the above examples of the Bible
recording that God moved things great distances in the twinkling
of an eye, are not confined to Gods initial creation, but
how he continued to do these things throughout Biblical history
and promises to do at the end of the Present Age, and will do
in the Age to Come. It is amazing to me that the same Christian
will passionately defend an old earth, in that it took the starlight
billions of light years to get here, while at the same time defend
the Rapture, where in a twinkling of an eye we will instantly
arrive at the Third Heaven with Jesus, which is even further
than any star in the known and unknown Second Heaven. Isnt
this is a classic case of straining at a gnat but willingly swallowing
Now this brings me to the two most famous
Scripture used by Christians who defend an old earth, and therefore
begs the ultimate question: does God intend for man to know what
a day is and does he expect him to be able to keep time?
Here are the two Scriptures:
II Peter 3:8: "But beloved (talking
to Christians), be not ignorant (sounds a lot like God wants
us to know), that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years,
and a thousand years is as one day."
Psalms 90:4: "For a thousand years
in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch
in the night."
The first thing that one should see here
is WHO is Peter talking about? The Lord, of course. Secondly
that it does not say a day "is" a thousand years. But
even if you try to insert this length of day into the Genesis
account of Creation for old earth (Day Age) proponents such as
Hugh Ross (or Christians who are Evolutionists, for that matter),
it doesnt help them. If a thousand years equals a day,
then Creation Week is only Six Thousand Years. Even six thousand
years is a drop in the bucket to old earth "Big Bang"
proponents, which demand billions of years. You could only add
the six thousand years from Adam to today plus the six thousand
years of Creation week and you only get 12-13 thousand years....hardly
enough. But let us examine this Scripture even more. It is certainly
clear that this passage is saying that time, whether days or
years, is created by God. But, God is not bound by time, particularly
if he knows the future. But, the question remains, is man bound
by time? Does the age of the earth or duration of a day or year
make any difference to man in Gods eyes? Well let us try
to substitute the word "man" for the word "Lord"
in this Scripture, for that is what you would have to do in order
to make any case for the old earth model:
II Peter 3:8 "But beloved (talking
to Christians), be not ignorant (sounds a lot like God wants
us to know), that one day is with man as a thousand years, and
a thousand years is as one day." Of course, this rendering
Psalms 90:4 would, likewise, have to
be rendered: "For a thousand years in mans sight are
but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night."
This, of course is an equally untenable meaning of a thousand
years, as both Scriptures must refer to Gods perspective
of time, NOT mans. And even then the passages dont
mean that one day IS a thousand years to the Lord, but simply
that God is not bound by time....man is!
Now allow me to show you what man, who
can now make a day mean anything he wants...any length of time,
can do with certain Scriptures and commands.
THE SABBATH DAY
Jesus said that the Sabbath was meant for
man. Actually, he made the other six days for man also. The only
difference is that he worked on those six and rested on the seventh
day. If this Sabbath day could be an indeterminate length, how
could man (Adam) know its beginning or end in order to rest?
How would Adam ever know when the first day of the week began
again. Doesn't the length of the 7th day (Sabbath) determine
the length of the other days (1-6)? How would Adam know when
the first day would begin again to repeat the cycle? If the Sabbath
Day is made for man and he does not know its length, then how
would he know when the Sabbath Year begins in order to leave
the ground fallow when the Law of Moses was given? So critical
was this in God's mind, that in disobeying the Sabbath Year for
70 Sabbaths, God collected them anyway (to restore the land),
by sending the Israelites into captivity for 490 years (70 times
7). (Good thing for the Israelites that a day was not a million
years or they would be in captivity for 490 million years.) How
could God be so cruel? Unless he had reason to expect that they
were responsible for knowing when a year was up and when six
years had expired, to leave the ground fallow for the seventh
year? Or, in other words, be able to tell time. Furthermore,
how could they know when 49 years was up to celebrate the 50th
year (Year of the Jubilee) to set debtors free? God created the
sun and moon to govern the seasons (each season is 3 months)
and years: Genesis 1:14 and reconfirmed in
Genesis 8:21-23: "As long as the
earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and
winter, day and night will never cease."
Day and night...thats 24 hours for
days and that is four seasons!! (Some have argued that there
were no seasons if the earth were untilted until the Flood. But
here we clearly see Seasons in the beginning from Genesis on.)
So his people could not miss when a year was up!
Hugh Ross in his Old Earth Theology tries
to maintain that the days in Genesis were not literal 24 hour
days, yet God defines a day ("yom") in this very first
Chapter of Genesis 1:14-19. So, a day is day, even here. And,
if a day is not a day, then what is a year? What is a season,
if it is not three months?
Exodus 12:40-41 reads: "Now the
sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was
four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass at the end
of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day (NIV:
to the very day) it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD
went out from the land of Egypt." Now doesnt "to
the very day" mean "to the very day". The text
does NOT say about four hundred and thirty years". So, does
God expect his people to keep time precisely? The answer is unequivocally
and absolutely YES.
How could Noah record such a precise journal
of how many days it rained, how many days the earth was deluged
during the Flood, if he had no idea what a day was, in terms
of duration? Noah even recorded the number of days he was floating
on the waters high above the earth. If Noah recorded it, God
wants us to know it. Joshua was given precise instructions in
terms of days, to march around the city of Jericho, etc., by
God, which he had to obey before God would destroy the city.
Now, if a day could mean anything and Joshua could not tell time,
it would make obedience impossible. Finally, when Jesus cursed
the fig tree upon his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, Jesus
condemned them because "they did NOT know this very day
of his visitation."
Luke 19:42,44: "Saying, If thou
hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day (NIV: "on
this day"), the things which belong unto thy peace! but
now they are hid from thine eyes." "And shall lay thee
even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they
shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou
knewest not the time of thy visitation."
I take this to mean not just day in general,
but literal day, because the Prophet Daniel prophesied the exact
number of years and days from the Decree to rebuild Jerusalem.
Daniel 9:25: "Know therefore and
understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore
and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven
weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built
again, and the wall, even in troublous times."
Once, as in Exodus 12:40-41, we see one
of the most important events and prophecies being fulfilled TO
THE VERY DAY. But again, if a day can mean virtually any length
of time, God was again quite cruel, to then blind all of Israel
for their failure to recognize Him and the day of his visitation.
In other words, he held them accountable for knowing the length
of a day and the numbers of days to his visitation.
So clearly, the Sabbath Day was sundown
to sundown (after the 4th day of creation), or 24 hr. prior to
the sun's creation. If one of the seven days is 24 hours, then
all of the seven are 24 hours. If they weren't, the cycle of
a week would be totally destroyed. The cycle of a year would
be destroyed. The cycle of seven year Sabbath would be destroyed.
The Jubilee cycle would be destroyed. Noah was on the ark for
300 million years. How was Noah then so able to even keep track
of every day, month, and year and record them so precisely? Miriam
was put outside the camp for leprosy for 7 million years? Jonah
is in the whale (the great fish) for 3 million years? Christ
is in the grave for 3 million years and would still be there
today, according to this logic. Jesus Christ prophesied of himself
that he would be in the grave three days. He gives us this in
Scripture and we are not supposed to count?
So, God tells the Israelites, as one of
the Ten Commandments to "Remember the Sabbath and keep it,
holy"....requiring them to keep it but then not clue them
in what a day is and how long it is? How would they know how
to keep this day "holy", as compared to the other six
days, if they werent expected to be able to tell time to
set this time aside? If the Seventh Day, as Hugh Ross maintains,
is perpetual, with no break, how could you even have ANY days
that were NOT holy, from Day Six in Creation, until today and
Now, there is one Scripture that I have
never heard used to defend that a day really is a day and that
the earth is really young. And that is:
Zechariah 14:6-7: "On that day
there will be no light, no cold or frost. It will be a UNIQUE
DAY, without daytime or nighttime -- a day known only to the
Lord. When evening comes, there will be light."
This is one of the most powerful Scriptures
in the entire Bible, which actually defines not only what a day
is, but what all days must do. All must mean all. Note that we
have to be talking about a real 24 hour day, because it describes
what takes place when sunset arrives, which is the beginning
of an evening. Now, when evening comes it is always dark (for
the whole earth, though not always observed in Alaska) always
has been. But, here we have an evening come, when it is light.
This is not normal for what happens in the evening. This Scriptural
passage says that, except for one unique day, light at night
has never happened. And this passage is talking about the Lords
return, so it encompasses ALL time, where, when evening comes,
it would be dark, EXCEPT on this UNIQUE Day. The only way this
could be unique is if there were NO other days, ever, that when
evening came, it would be light. So, this would have to include
the first six days of Creation Week (and the Seventh for that
matter too). Otherwise, we would have at least six more unique
days, when evening came, it would be light. But, even Genesis
itself records that the evening part of the day was dark. (Joshua
extended a day for 12 hours, but when evening came it was still
dark, so this is not an exception to the rule of Zechariahs
Scripture.) This is astounding, because it leaves NO days throughout
history, from the beginning of Creation, that were not days as
we know them. This puts an absolute lock on young earth creation,
based on Scripture, therefore, refuting old earth theology and
Hugh Ross and many old earth proponents
argue that it would be deceptive of God to give us the impression
of apparent age of the star, based on the speed of light. But
God has created much more complex things in a very short period
and in most cases in the twinkling of an eye, or no longer than
one day. This all may result in Gods Creation having apparent
age. How old will our glorified bodies look? However old they
look does not really matter, because any age they appear still
means they were only a twinkling of an eye old.
EXAMPLES OF GOD CREATING THINGS INSTANTLY
OR IN A MATTER OF DAYS OR MONTHS:
CREATES LIGHT ON DAY ONE
Genesis1:3: "And God said, Let
there be light: and there was light."
CREATES WATER ON DAY ONE
Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was
without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the
deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."
DIVIDES THE WATERS ON DAY TWO
Genesis 1:6: "And God said, Let
the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place,
and let the dry land appear: and it was so."
CREATES PLANTS AND TREES ON DAY THREE
Genesis 1:12-13: "And God said,
Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and
the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in
itself, upon the earth: and it was so. And the earth brought
forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree
yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and
God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were
the third day."
CREATES MOON AND STARS ON DAY FOUR
Genesis 1:14: "And God said, Let
there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the
day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons,
and for days, and years:"
CREATES CREATURES OF THE SEA, LAND, AND
AIR ON DAY FIVE
Genesis: 1:20,24: "And God said,
Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that
hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open
firmament of heaven....And God said, Let the earth bring forth
the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing,
and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so"
ADAM AND EVE CREATED FULLY FORMED ON DAY
Genesis 20:27: "So God created
man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male
and female created he them."
SPEECH (FIRST HUMAN ADAM SPOKE)
Genesis 2:23: "And Adam said, This
is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be
called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."
Genesis 5:24: "And Enoch walked
with God: and he was not; for God took him".
GLOBAL FLOOD (Genesis Chapters 5-9)
BRAZEN SERPENT (healing reverses decay
Numbers 21:9: "And Moses made a
serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass,
that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent
of brass, he lived."
CLOTHES AND SANDALS OF THE ISRAELITES IN
THE WILDERNESS NEVER WORE OUT IN FORTY YEARS (total suspension
of decay rate)
Deuteronomy 29:5: "During the forty
years that I led you through the desert, your clothes did not
wear out, nor did the sandals on your feet."
SUN AND MOON STAND STILL FOR TWELVE HOURS
IN JOSHUAS BATTLE OF JERICHO
(suspends time and decay rate for entire
Joshua 10:13: "And the sun stood
still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves
upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher?
So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not
to go down about a whole day."
EGYPTIAN PLAGUES (Exodus Chapters 7-11)
PARTING OF THE READ SEA (SEA OF REEDS)
Exodus 14:21: "And Moses stretched
out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused the sea to go
back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry
land, and the waters were divided."
GUIDING THE ISRAELITES IN A CLOUD BY DAY
& PILLAR OF FIRE BY NIGHT
Exodus 13:20: "And the LORD went
before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way;
and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by
day and night:"
MIRACLES OF JESUS CHRIST:
CHRISTS FIRST MIRACLE OF TURNING
WATER TO WINE
(accelerates decay rate), (John Chapter
CHRIST CASTING OUT DEMONS INTO A HERD OF
Matthew 8:32: "He said to them,
"Go!" So they came out and went into the pigs, and
the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died
in the water."
CHRIST HEALING THE WOMANS TWELVE
YEARS OF BLEEDING WHICH HAD STOPPED, RESTORING HER MENSTRUAL
Luke 8:43-45 "And a woman was there
who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years, but no one
could heal her. She came up behind him and touched the edge of
his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped."
CHRIST WALKING ON THE WATER
John 6:19: "So when they had rowed
about five and twenty or thirty furlongs, they see Jesus walking
on the sea, and drawing nigh unto the ship: and they were afraid."
CHRIST RAISING LAZARUS FROM THE DEAD AFTER
(reverses decay rate)
John 11:17,43: "On his arrival,
Jesus found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four
days...When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, "Lazarus,
Matthew 17:2: "There he was transfigured
before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became
as white as the light".
THE RESURRECTION (demolishes decay rate)
Luke 24:46: "And said unto them,
Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and
to rise from the dead the third day:"
NEW CREATION (BEING BORN AGAIN)
John 3:3: "In reply Jesus declared,
"I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God
unless he is born again."
GLORIFICATION (AT THE RAPTURE) (demolishes
I Thessalonians 4:16-17: "For the
Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the
voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead
in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain
shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet
the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
NEW HEAVEN AND EARTH (demolishes decay
Revelation 21:1: "And I saw a new
heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth
were passed away; and there was no more sea."
So because these were all done instantaneously
or very rapidly, God is deceiving us because of the apparent
age they often portray? There is NO deception, if God told us
what he did!
As to whether or not God expects us to
tell time from the beginning, he gives us the genealogy of Christ
four times in the Bible. If God did not give these and expect
us to be able to tell time, there would be no way of determining
your inheritance, something so critical to all of the tribes
and clans of Israel. How would you properly identify the Messiah,
without keeping track, in time, of his lineage?
I would now like to address a few points
in on this subject of "time", though I have also addressed
it above. Christians who have trouble with a global flood cannot
then accept the clear account in Genesis, that God flooded the
whole world with water, when he created it, before he brought
dry land out of the water?
If one postulates that you assume God works
through the Laws of Nature that he created, then I agree that
he normally does that. But, we still dont know all of the
laws of nature he created. Secondly, based on what I presented
about the "invisible" laws, we have no idea what impact
or limitation God himself has imposed on the natural laws. But
once again, based on all of the Biblical examples above, he preempts
them at will. We know for certain God breaks the natural laws
we can observe. That is how we know it is a miracle. But what
about his laws we can NOT observe? There is a whole lot going
on in the unseen world. But we have no idea what is occurring
in this realm. The Scriptures give us occasional windows into
this unseen world such Saul bringing Samuels spirit, the
Archangel Michael in a perpetual battle defending Israel, as
described in the Book of Daniel, other visions of the prophets,
Jesus Christs description of the torment of the rich man
in Sheol, and the war in Heaven described in the Book of Revelation.
But as a whole, we are not given the ability
to peer into the unseen world and, in fact, are prohibited from
God certainly does work within the framework
his own created natural laws, in the observed physical Universe,
but he also periodically suspends them as well as works simultaneously
in the invisible realm. So, I hope my arguments from Scripture
about Gods "Invisible" laws that govern the Universe
Many people (including Christians) will
say something like: "When someone asks me the age of the
universe, I simply shrug and say it depends. I think
it is actually the most correct answer. "
Comment: If I could humbly disagree. Reason:
God tells us the age of the Universe, then he tells us what to
do during this Present Age (once again using my above arguments).
If one is forced to use the words "it depends", then
my answer would be, it depends on if you are man or the Lord.
And, it depends on where you are (on earth, or in heaven). If
I were God, I would then ask back similarly to his dialogue with
Job. "Where are you? Answer: "On the earth or
in heaven". Gods second question: "Who are you,
the Lord or Man?" Answer: "Man."
So does God want us to keep time? Absolutely
and unequivocally YES! And if he does, he expects us to know
the age of the earth (at least upper limits).
Regarding the Canopy Theory of a water
vapor surrounding the earth prior to the Flood, then collapsing
to produce the Flood, I should underscore that it definitely
rained. But it did not rain until there was a canopy created
by the fountains of the deep filling up the sky. And God certainly
could have created rain without dust. But ,we know there would
be dust, if "all" of the volcanoes blew into the Sky.
Mt. St. Helens should put that to rest. The water condensing
on the dust gives it the gravity to fall to the ground. This
still keeps it as a judgment. Remember, that there was enough
water to cover the earth in Genesis Chapter I, AFTER God has
placed the waters above the sky (space). And, even if you support
the Canopy Theory, even the most generous limits of a canopy
by young earth Christian geologist models maintain that a canopy
would only add several feet more water to the surface...which
is virtually nothing when compared to the volume of water that
would be needed to totally submerge the earth. I know that the
canopy creates a good model for the barrier needed. But, that
is also assuming that we know, with absolute certainty, that
there even was a need for a pre-Flood barrier; to do what? Produce
long life spans? I have seen various charts of the drop off in
longevity since Adam. But the fact is, you cant find a
convenient place to put the Flood. The downward slopes in life
spans, though somewhat jagged, are quite uniform right up through
Moses, when life spans really taper off to 60-100 years. I continually
hear about this 120 years life span after the Flood. But, you
cant find one person in the Bible who lived to be exactly
120 years.. the closest you get is Joseph who lived 110 years.
But Joseph lived almost 700 years after the Flood. The only true
Biblical support for a deterioration of life spans is really
the effects of the original curse and Fall of Adam. Scripture:
Genesis 6:3: "And the LORD said,
My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also
is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years."
"I will no longer tarry with man and
his days shall be 120 years" is a prophecy of the number
of years until the Flood. (Though I personally think that the
Flood had some impact on longevity). Then there is another problem
with this supposed rosy quasi-Paradise pre-Flood. That is Genesis
5:29, which Lamech, in referring to Noah states:
Genesis 5:29: "He will comfort
us in the labor and painful toil of our hands caused by the ground
the Lord has cursed."
It does not sound to me like there was
much of a paradise on earth going on here up to the Flood. In
fact, it is implied that the ground would be better after the
Flood. The Flood perhaps rototilled the entire earth, leaving
the soil more user-friendly for agriculture. The ground would
still be cursed until Christ recreates Paradise. But the effects
of the curse were reduced by the irrigation caused by the Flood.
We certainly would agree with Lamech today, for those of us who
drive cars and heat our homes with the fuel that would only be
available to us, if there were a global deluge, which buried
all of the vegetation deep underground, to create oil, gas, and
coal. Who knows...you may have even put a little "Harry"...a
Flood victim from Mesopotamia into your last tank of gas.
In conclusion, I find it inconceivable
that God would give us such a precise blueprint of time in mornings,
days, evenings, seasons, years, Sabbaths, genealogies, and a
host of prophecies containing days, weeks and years, with specific,
even cataclysmic dire consequences (curses for disobedience),
which are directly tied to these various time frames, and, likewise,
blessings were accrued to those who were obedient. Then conclude
that God did not intend for man to tell or keep time, right back
to the beginning of the earth and the universe. So I do not think
we can answer the question "How old is the earth" with
"It depends". Jesus himself, on the Road to Emmaus,
thought it was important enough to tell these disciples everything
about who he was from the beginning of Creation.
Luke 24:27: "And beginning at Moses
and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures
the things concerning himself".
I cannot imagine that he would do this,
if he did not think it was important to have them have a reference
point in time of who he is. Without this blueprint of time and
genealogy, there would be no way of identifying and knowing for
certain who the Messiah would be. God gave the whole future history
of Israel in the Prophets and the whole future history of the
World to his prophets. Jesus is so concerned about our perception
of time and identifying signs, particularly the End Times, that
he gave us some of his greatest warnings about being deceived
in the last days, as do the Apostles Paul, Peter, and John. This
warning would be unimaginable, if time and the fullness of time
did not have to be reckoned by mankind. How could we ever discern
the fullness of time if we could not keep time, and be expected
to keep time, so that it does not come upon us unaware. Paul
said to the Thessalonians concerning the return of Christ that
"of the times and seasons you have no need for me to tell
you". He did not say this because they did not need to know,
but because had already told them. The Antichrist is referred
to as one who will try to "change the times and the laws"
(Daniel 7:25). How could we identify him, if we do not know what
time or laws are, so that we could recognize when he changed
them? So, it was important that they knew. We are also called
to gather together that much more often, as we see the day of
our redemption draw near.
Luke 21:28: "And when these things
begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads;
for your redemption draweth nigh."
How could we even comprehend how to comply
with this instruction, if we have no reliable mechanism of time,
in order to obey that command? The age of the earth is directly
connected with how old the earth will be when Christ returns.
We will not know the day or the hour, but we will know when it
is even at the door, because we remained vigilant and forewarned
and prepared for this very time.
Matthew 24:33: "So likewise ye,
when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even
at the doors."
When he comes is dependent on when he came
and when he descended from Adam.
Regarding physical or natural laws (visible
vs. invisible), I think there is also an important distinction
between man's laws, which are visible vs. God's law of the natural
order, given by Divine Revelation. Example: both gravity and
entropy are physical and observable laws. But, gravity is a law
based on man's observation. Entropy, on the other hand, is a
physical law too, but it was given by God's revelation in the
Scriptures, such as the "heavens wear out like a garment",
and physical death. This does not mean that an observable law
of man is not true, as it is pretty hard to argue against gravity.
Also, both gravity and entropy were not always here but were
introduced and are temporary. Death was not originally natural,
but introduced because of the Fall. And death won't be here in
the New Heavens and Earth, or for that matter neither will the
Second Law of Thermodynamics. Death will be the last enemy thrown
into the Lake of Fire. Our glorified bodies will certainly not
be bound by gravity. Newtons and Einstein's equations are
man made, so are not the final authority. We always talk about
the known universe having to obey the three laws of thermodynamics,
and that they must follow uniformitarian principles. But, we
must be very careful here, because the 2nd Law (entropy) is also
a God given law. But, it is temporary. Furthermore, if life must
come from life, there could never be a beginning of life in the
natural, according to the Law of Biogenesis, because you would
have to go backwards to infinity, since you could never get life
without parents that had life. But, from a Biblical view, life
never began without God breathing it into what he had formed....it
would NEVER live. But, God was not life in the natural sense
(biogenetically), as he is INVISIBLE...that is, until he came
as the Messiah (excluding Old Testament Theophanies). Though
once life was here, I certainly would agree with this law.
In conclusion, I think the best statement
that can be made whether God expects man to be able to tell time
is in Jesus Christs own words: Matthew 16:2-3: "When
it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is
red. And in the morning, It will be foul weather today: for the
sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face
of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?"